Do we need a RTFMFAQ Sticky? - XBimmers

Le Chef · 01-05-2012, 04:46 PM

These cars are not simple but I get the sense that people are not bothering to read the manual. Would it be better if the "typical" questions were in a FAQ sticky thread where those who don't want to read the manual could spare themselves a minute or two out of their busy lives to at least read the FAQ response.

Thoughts?

bmw>audi · 01-05-2012, 04:49 PM

Better yet, can someone turn the manual into an audiobook so we can listen in traffic and test out the features in real time?

Radioactive · 01-05-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Chef

These cars are not simple but I get the sense that people are not bothering to read the manual. Would it be better if the "typical" questions were in a FAQ sticky thread where those who don't want to read the manual could spare themselves a minute or two out of their busy lives to at least read the FAQ response.

Thoughts?

+1

Or how about even doing a simple search for a topic that's been covered several times.

MrC · 01-05-2012, 05:44 PM

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Better yet, can someone turn the manual into an audiobook so we can listen in traffic and test out the features in real time?

There is a copy of the owners manual in the Idrive, according to BMWUSA owner videos.

sfax · 01-06-2012, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Radioactive

Or how about even doing a simple search for a topic that's been covered several times.

+1

sfax · 01-06-2012, 03:06 AM

It's a good idea but the problem is that many people won't bother searching or reading the sticky as it's much quicker for them to start a new thread. But for those that will take the time, it's worthwhile

April1 · 01-06-2012, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by sfax

It's a good idea but the problem is that many people won't bother searching or reading the sticky as it's much quicker for them to start a new thread. But for those that will take the time, it's worthwhile

+1

xDrive35i · 01-06-2012, 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by MrC

There is a copy of the owners manual in the Idrive, according to BMWUSA owner videos.

Yeah, this is the most frustrating part. You can search for virtually anything regarding the car's features, specs, and settings whenever you're in the car. Nobody should have to read the manual to learn how to read the manual.

And then they clutter the forum with repeat posts and threads because of their ineptitude...

Le Chef · 01-06-2012, 12:30 PM

Agree - I was attempting to be diplomatic. I can't understand how you buy something this expensive and NOT read the manual cover to cover and back again. Seems just plain lazy.

renderfarmer · 01-06-2012, 01:15 PM

If the only manual available was a printed one I could excuse someone for being lazy. But the PDF version is searchable and quicker to access than any forum.

Steve30dMSport · 01-07-2012, 06:33 AM

I could not agree more. I never cease to be amazed at some of the questions asked on this forum and also the inanity of some of the replies. I hate to sound defeatist but I doubt people too lazy to read the manual (let alone make simple decisions on their own volition) would be motivated to read through a FAQ which someone has worked hard to put together.

Nahoa · 01-07-2012, 06:36 AM

Funny how folks find it easier to find this blog, sign up, and ask the obvious question than to pick up the manual. I'll admit I've asked a stupid question or two, but I tried to figure it out first!

greg2step · 01-07-2012, 08:27 AM

Guilty as charged - oh well I was doing well w/ all of that, tripped up on active fog lights RTFM on me

apparently i need a refresher read on a cold winter day - too bad it warmed up. oh well at least that's more obscure and a topic I don't recall being covered....

I do want to endorse the how-to video's BMW posted online - I went through every one of those and learned so much.

Nahoa · 01-07-2012, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lotus7

Manual.... You mean there's a manual? I thought US X3s only came with an automatic!

Isn't that 2 lb. slab of paper in the glove-box a paperweight? Dam!, you learn something every day.

Can anyone tell me what those pedals hanging just above the floor on the driver's side are for?

The one on the right is regular espresso, the one on the left is decaf.

Nahoa · 01-07-2012, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by greg2step

Guilty as charged - oh well I was doing well w/ all of that, tripped up on active fog lights RTFM on me

apparently i need a refresher read on a cold winter day - too bad it warmed up. oh well at least that's more obscure and a topic I don't recall being covered....

I do want to endorse the how-to video's BMW posted online - I went through every one of those and learned so much.

I didn't get the fog lights from the manual either, so you have company.

MAKE · 01-07-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nahoa

The one on the right is regular espresso, the one on the left is decaf.

I found it's the opposite in my right hand drive X3

Nahoa · 01-07-2012, 10:05 AM

ha!

Radioactive · 01-07-2012, 11:07 AM

Kept pushing the pedals this morning and no damn coffee coming out. I had to use the regular grind and brew. Does anyone know where in the manual I can find this subject?

What's funny about this thread is that it probably tells more about the personality of the posters than the OP's referred too.

nonagon · 01-07-2012, 04:47 PM

The car itself could use a dedicated button with this icon:

April1 · 01-07-2012, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lotus7

Manual.... You mean there's a manual? I thought US X3s only came with an automatic!

Isn't that 2 lb. slab of paper in the glove-box a paperweight? Dam!, you learn something every day.

I thought electronics is used for making it automatic but manual says there is an electronic manual too.

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01-06-2012, 03:06 AM	#6
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01-07-2012, 06:36 AM	#12
Nahoa Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F25 35i Mineral Silver/Black Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,853 iTrader: (0)	Funny how folks find it easier to find this blog, sign up, and ask the obvious question than to pick up the manual. I'll admit I've asked a stupid question or two, but I tried to figure it out first! __________________

01-07-2012, 08:27 AM	#13
greg2step X3 Owner/Driver Drives: 2011 X3 Xdrive35i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Baltimore, Maryland, USA Posts: 453 iTrader: (0)	Guilty as charged - oh well I was doing well w/ all of that, tripped up on active fog lights RTFM on me apparently i need a refresher read on a cold winter day - too bad it warmed up. oh well at least that's more obscure and a topic I don't recall being covered.... I do want to endorse the how-to video's BMW posted online - I went through every one of those and learned so much. __________________ 2011 X3 XDrive35i F25 l Deep Sea Blue l Mojave Leather l Alum Brush Trim l Packages = Sport, DHP, Premium, Nav/Technology, Cold Weather, Convenience \| Premuim Audio + Sirius 2008 328XI E91 Sportwagon l Sparkling Graphite l Gray Dakota Leather l Dark Burl Walnut \| Steptronic 6SP l Premium l Heated Seats [traded in for the X3 above]

01-07-2012, 10:05 AM	#17
Nahoa Lieutenant Colonel Drives: F25 35i Mineral Silver/Black Join Date: May 2008 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,853 iTrader: (0)	ha! __________________

01-05-2012, 04:49 PM	#2
bmw>audi New Member Drives: 2012 X3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: California Posts: 17 iTrader: (0)	Better yet, can someone turn the manual into an audiobook so we can listen in traffic and test out the features in real time?

01-06-2012, 12:30 PM	#9
Le Chef Banned Drives: BMW X3 35i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 412 iTrader: (0)	Agree - I was attempting to be diplomatic. I can't understand how you buy something this expensive and NOT read the manual cover to cover and back again. Seems just plain lazy.

01-06-2012, 01:15 PM	#10
renderfarmer Enlisted Member Drives: 2012 X3 xDrive35i M Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Jersey Posts: 39 iTrader: (0)	If the only manual available was a printed one I could excuse someone for being lazy. But the PDF version is searchable and quicker to access than any forum.

01-07-2012, 06:33 AM	#11
Steve30dMSport Banned Drives: 2011 X3 30D M Sport Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Melbourne Posts: 80 iTrader: (0)	I could not agree more. I never cease to be amazed at some of the questions asked on this forum and also the inanity of some of the replies. I hate to sound defeatist but I doubt people too lazy to read the manual (let alone make simple decisions on their own volition) would be motivated to read through a FAQ which someone has worked hard to put together.

01-07-2012, 11:07 AM	#18
Radioactive Captain Drives: '11 X3 28i '10 535i '04 325i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 618 iTrader: (0)	Kept pushing the pedals this morning and no damn coffee coming out. I had to use the regular grind and brew. Does anyone know where in the manual I can find this subject? What's funny about this thread is that it probably tells more about the personality of the posters than the OP's referred too.

01-07-2012, 04:47 PM	#19
nonagon First Lieutenant Drives: 2012 X3 M Sport Carbon Black Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Arlington VA Posts: 318 iTrader: (0)	The car itself could use a dedicated button with this icon: __________________ 2012 X3 xDrive 35i \| Carbon Black/Oyster \| M Sport \| Premium \| Tech \| Cold Weather I & II \| DHP \| Premium Audio \| BMW Apps

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