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      12-30-2011, 06:23 PM   #1145
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Disappointed they removed the honk the horn remotely option on that app. I enjoyed demonstrating that one

Lines look fantastic in the flesh on the lighter colours
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      12-30-2011, 07:02 PM   #1146
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I wouldn't worry Although 50k is a lot for a car like this. That opens up a whole other bracket and is my remaining self-justification for sticking to the 30d (now the SE excuse is out the window!). I hope you negotiated a nice discount on that order.

Yes I got over £4000 off so fairly pleased.
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      12-31-2011, 06:04 AM   #1147
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      12-31-2011, 06:19 AM   #1148
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      12-31-2011, 07:05 AM   #1149
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Yes I got over £4000 off so fairly pleased.
Great. 8% gross seems about the best UK deal atm, I achieved the same.
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      12-31-2011, 11:20 AM   #1150
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Great. 8% gross seems about the best UK deal atm, I achieved the same.
Better than my 5% but I only had ~ 37k list
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      12-31-2011, 01:06 PM   #1153
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Is it not inconvenient to operate iDrive with left hand in UK models?
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      12-31-2011, 01:31 PM   #1154
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Is it not inconvenient to operate iDrive with left hand in UK models?
No not at all! We've been shifting gears with our left hand all our lives!
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      01-01-2012, 06:53 AM   #1155
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      01-01-2012, 08:48 AM   #1156
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New motor - thoughts on available options

Hi all
I'm new to this forum and have just ordered a new X3. I wanted to list the options that I ordered to see what you all think and also to canvass opinion on options that I didn't choose - but you think I would be silly not to.

I test drove a 3 litre model so that is what I ordered - a 30d SE. Another reason for choosing this engine is that it comes with the automatic gearbox - which I loved. I chose titanium silver as a liked the colour.
I chose the beige interior leather as I have this on the car that the X3 will replace (a Honda CRV) and like the way that it gives a bright and airy feel to the interior. Now on to the options...

ZXF - visibility package. I chose this because I love the LED angel eyes (I'm a real gadget tart). I love DRLs (which is why I bought an Audi A5 a few years ago) and I don't think these corona rings can be beaten in terms of looks.
I included the visibility package as I also get the folding/dimming mirrors; the high beam assistant and the adaptive lighting. I'm hoping that the headlights are good as the xenons on my A5 were pretty poor. Does anyone else with adaptive lighting know if it includes the side facing lights when approaching a side road? I know the brochure says it does but they can sometimes be unreliable.

ZXF - professional media. I liked the widescreen display and the assist packages that come with it.

ZXK - Access package. I wanted the comfort access and power tailgate as I often return to the car with my hands full and don't want to have to fumble around looking for a key.

223/2VG - variable damper control. I heard good reviews about this but have never experienced it. Does anyone out there have this - is it worth it (I hope so)?

610 - Heads-up display. For those "Top Gun" moments on my way to pick up my curry

3AH - Reverse cameras with top view. Because I don't want to scratch my new car.

ZXH - heated front seats

481 - Sports seats

420 - Sun protection glass.

255 - sport steering wheel

677 - professional loudspeaker system. I've not heard this but I do like my music - and I've been disappointed with sound systems in all my other cars.

654 - DAB radio

2VL - variable sports steering. I was a bit unsure about this as I have heard reports that it can make the steering feel over sensitive. Having said that, I've heard positive reports too so I chose to include it.

Standard wheels. I like a comfortable drive. My experiences with bigger wheels/low profile tyres is that they can make the rise a bit harsher, are more prone to making the steering very sensitive to 'tram lines' and are more expensive to replace.

I also deleted the model designation (badges) to make it easier to clean/polish the car.

So, that's it. Did I miss anything? Is there anything on there that you don't think is worth the money? I'd appreciate your feedback.

I ordered the car a few days before Christmas and was told to expect a June 2012 delivery. Since then, the dealer has called me back and said that the 3L models seem to be on a shorter lead time and it is currently showing as March delivery - just in time for a shiny new '12' plate

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      01-01-2012, 09:08 AM   #1157
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plob Very nice spec and can't fault your choice of trim and colour

Personally I wouldn't (and didn't) bother with adaptive and main beam assist. The former as I can't see when it would ever be useful if you already have xenons, the latter as they simply can't work well enough to be any use IMO, e.g. pedestrians, cyclists, cars in front of you but too far away to be detected

I would add x-line mostly for the window trims as they look more premium than without but also for the BMW door sills and boot loading trim. Front and back bumpers are subjective

Consider electric seats with memory if you have a partner who will be driving it too. I have them and they are godsend - and look very cool when automatically moving into position

HUD looks cool but it gets some negative feedback because of the lack of customisation and because you get nav directions in the dash anyway which is sufficient. Get it if you can afford it though as it will impress!

If you have an iPhone then definitely get BMW Apps, more for future proofing than anything else. It has huge potential

I use the split folding rear seats a lot and would recommend adding them if they aren't standard on the 30d

I would debadge too if a had a 30d for cleaning and wolf in sheep's clothing reasons...
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      01-01-2012, 09:11 AM   #1158
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Oh, and i would also go for 307 18s as they won't make that much difference to the ride (1/2" on side wall) and look a lot better (assuming you are getting RFT 17s not non-RFTs)
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      01-01-2012, 09:16 AM   #1159
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plob - you look to have a similar order to my original one and I would recommend you consider changing to an M Sport, especially if you consider going for 18in wheels and xline on the SE as sfax recommends. You will find that with a similar spec it will work out not much more as you have added most of the items that come as standard on the 30d M Sport.

The reason to do this is simple- resale. You won't get much of the money back for any of those extras on an SE but on an M Sport the list price is around £2k higher and so will return more on resale. It will depend on how long you intend to keep the car but if its only 2-3 years it wil end up costing you around £1500-£2000 more to do it this way.

In the rest of the world the M Sport is just a 'pack' like any other - but in the UK it is considered to be a separate, higher spec model.

Don't worry about the ride either - delete the M Sport suspension (no cost option) and stick with the standard 18s and you'll be fine.
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      01-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #1160
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Couple other thoughts-

Trim: standard trim needs upgrading, satin silver looks cheap. Personally I think wood looks best with beige and would go for fineline. This is £345 upgrade on SE but again only £100 on M Sport (closes the gap even more!)

Power tailgate: I have this on the Q5 and always will again. No more dirty hands.
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      01-01-2012, 09:30 AM   #1161
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If you go for M sport you may want to switch colours though - TiAg in M Sport doesn't look as good as other colours like black, CB IMO. dnw probably has a point on resale but you can't know for sure as this is a new model and resale after 2-3 years won't be known for at least another year. Some options are worth a lot more than others like sat nav. All down to what people want the most

If you want to see the 307 18s on a TS for comparison, these are my winter wheels:

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Power tailgate: I have this on the Q5 and always will again. No more dirty hands.
Although you only get dirty hands if you touch the boot which you don't need to do either to open (just press button which doesn't get dirty) or close (pull down using interior handle). That said, it's easy to forget and get dirty hands and it does look cool. My other reason was not trusting mrs sfax to open it onto the ceiling of a car park!!
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      01-01-2012, 09:37 AM   #1163
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dnw probably has a point on resale but you can't know for sure as this is a new model and resale after 2-3 years won't be known for at least another year.
That's true and if it turns out to be as good as the Q5 (20% over 3 years ) I'll be pleased

However, BMWs have been around for a longgg time and one pattern has held true in the UK: M Sport more desirable used (esp in <3 year) and retain a premium over SEs, Pro Nav retains a premium, Big Wheels help, all other options sweet fa....
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      01-01-2012, 10:51 AM   #1164
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I'm loving my Msport after 3 days. If you have an iPhone apps is a must. Also the xenons/visibility package may seem expensive but is a real head turner!
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Hi all
Thanks ever so much for the many (and prompt) messages with good feedback. Iím beginning to wish I hadnít asked now as you all came up with such thought provoking ideas.

I think the main thing that your replies prompted me to do was to have a closer look at the differences between the SE and M Sport models. I guess I hadnít realised that many of the options Iíd chosen were included in the M Sport. I ran up a couple of configurator screens side by side so I could see the differences by quickly switching from one screen to the other. I have to say that Iím really quite taken by the look of the M Sport.

Initially, I hadnít given the M Sport much brain time as the base model was so much more expensive than the SE and I didnít want the hard suspension. I hadn't thought that I could delete this until I read DNWís message. Listening to the discussion between sfax and DNW made me think about the body styling very closely.

The upshot is that Iím seriously considering changing the order to an M Sport Ė but Iíll need to check what difference that will make to my insurance as its sky high already despite being a good boy and an advanced driver.

Iím starting to like the look of the space grey too. My last 2 cars have been black and they really show the dirt and swirls.

sfax - point taken about the high beam assist. Iíve had adaptive lights on a previous car and loved them. I particularly liked the extra turn light that came on when indicating or turning the wheel to past a certain point.

cheesebag, can you share your experiences of the adaptive lighting please? I will definitely have Xenons but Iím in two minds as to whether or not to forget the visibility package and just have the Xenons. Please can you let me know what you think of the adaptive feature?

sfax, Iím not bothered about the electric seats as we donít share cars very often. My current car has electric seats and I honestly canít remember the last time it was used.

sfax Ė thanks for the information about the HUD. Iíve done some more research and may forget about this option and use the money saved to bridge the gap between the SE and M Sport models.

all Ė what are the BMW apps? I donít know what it is so I didnít bother with it.

Thanks again for all your help and opinions

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I was in a friends A7 with HUD option and thought is was a waste of money - he did too! If you stick to SE you must add x-Line, I know the price is steep but unless you go for AW IMO the profile looks cheap with the default rubber window surrounds.

The other posters are correct about M-Sport - more options you add the more cost effective it is to start with M-sport. If you go to M-sport you should check your body colour still looks good for you due to the deeper profile and colour massing effect.
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