DHP Standard?

mistermagoo · 12-09-2011, 11:17 PM

Just picked up my new 2012 X3 35i (Space Gray, Sand Beige Nevada Leather, Fineline Wave Wood Trim). Great ride so far. Hoping to take it out for a spin sans wife so I can open up the engine a bit. Impressed by how much power is available at the slightest tap of the accelerator.

Anyway, I have a question. I didn't select DHP as an option, but when I picked up my car, I noticed that I had the rocker switch with the ability to select Sport and Sport+ modes. Is DHP now standard? I double checked my order sheet and it isn't listed as an option. Has this happened to anyone else?

paul386 · 12-09-2011, 11:41 PM

Some people get lucky I suppose. It definitely isn't standard!

Be careful on that engine until you get a few thousand miles on it!

fiddy yen · 12-09-2011, 11:48 PM

Msport package? If so the rocker switch comes standard but doesn't do anything to the suspension.

mistermagoo · 12-09-2011, 11:56 PM

No MSport Package, just the Sports Activity Package. I guess I got lucky... Maybe I should notify the dealer...

torzeck · 12-10-2011, 12:07 AM

All of us 2011 owners have discussed this extensively.
It was confusing.
The 35i with SAP comes with the rocker switch.
It will control transmission shift points, the steering but not the actual shocks unless you have DHP.

Want the thrill · 12-10-2011, 12:13 AM

http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showth...light=Mole7374

Read on....

tuco44 · 12-10-2011, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermagoo

Just picked up my new 2012 X3 35i (Space Gray, Sand Beige Nevada Leather, Fineline Wave Wood Trim). Great ride so far. Hoping to take it out for a spin sans wife so I can open up the engine a bit. Impressed by how much power is available at the slightest tap of the accelerator.

Anyway, I have a question. I didn't select DHP as an option, but when I picked up my car, I noticed that I had the rocker switch with the ability to select Sport and Sport+ modes. Is DHP now standard? I double checked my order sheet and it isn't listed as an option. Has this happened to anyone else?

I would say you do not have the DHP. The switch is there, but no DHP (ie. no suspension changes). Read the suggested link in the post above.

02420X3 · 12-10-2011, 01:14 AM

As noted by others, the rocker switch is present, but there is no DHP, and there are no suspension changes. However there are transmission shiftpoint, 7th and 8th gear lockout, and throttle response changes that may rock your world. Be gentle until your X3 is broken in, but enjoy!

sard · 12-10-2011, 01:24 AM

Can you take a photo of your shocks and post it? If you have DHP you should have the cylinder with the wire coming out of it like this

http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619487

mistermagoo · 12-10-2011, 06:36 AM

Thanks for all your responses. I will double check to see if the rocker switch only affects the throttle. And sorry for the duplicate post. I'm a relative newbie who didn't

for this forum. On the fense about reading the X3's. Guess I should. For both. Thanks again all.

sard · 12-10-2011, 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermagoo

Thanks for all your responses. I will double check to see if the rocker switch only affects the throttle. And sorry for the duplicate post. I'm a relative newbie who didn't

for this forum. On the fense about reading the X3's. Guess I should. For both. Thanks again all.

Can u just go look under your car, rear should be easier, and tell me if u have the cylinders

tuco44 · 12-10-2011, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sard

Can u just go look under your car, rear should be easier, and tell me if u have the cylinders

Agree with Sard, look at the shocks. One cannot tell for certain by driving it and changing the toggle switch. Others have done that and "sworn" they have suspension adjustment, when they do not.

Le Chef · 12-10-2011, 06:36 PM

You could also check under the rocker switch marked "Normal/Sport/Sport+". Some versions of SAP (-DHP) came with a special BMW Motion 3 Placebo Feedback Switch (M3PFS). This uses motion feedback to stimulate the cerebrum linking the frontal and parietal lobes into believing the body is experiencing stiffer suspension.

MikeBimmer · 12-10-2011, 06:50 PM

HI-freaking-larious!!!!

mistermagoo · 12-10-2011, 07:10 PM

I guess I'll never know. Kinda hard to get a good view of the shocks in the city, and there's no way of knowing for certain by just toggling the switch.

paul386 · 12-11-2011, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermagoo

I guess I'll never know. Kinda hard to get a good view of the shocks in the city, and there's no way of knowing for certain by just toggling the switch.

It doesn't matter that you are a city. Stick you head under the car and look at the shocks. If there is a tube sticking out of the lower portion of the shock perpendicular to the shock and it has wires coming out it... Dynamic Dampers.

mistermagoo · 12-11-2011, 09:16 AM

Yeah, it kind of matters if on one side of the car you have crazy cab drivers passing by at ridiculous speeds, regardless of traffic conditions. But more importantly, I don't care enough to get down on a filthy sidewalk or parking garage floor to see if there are wires coming out of the shocks.

tuco44 · 12-12-2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mistermagoo

Yeah, it kind of matters if on one side of the car you have crazy cab drivers passing by at ridiculous speeds, regardless of traffic conditions. But more importantly, I don't care enough to get down on a filthy sidewalk or parking garage floor to see if there are wires coming out of the shocks.

Just to prove how trivial your complaint is, I did exactly what you have to do to know by looking at the rear shocks in my garage. Put a piece of cardboard or an old newspaper on the ground at the rear of the car, out of traffics way, and look in and slightly up at one of the rear shocks. You can see the protrusion and wire easily. Simple, clean and takes all of 10 secs to do.

Of course, if you would rather not know................just carry on.

sfax · 12-12-2011, 12:51 PM

Rocker switch = dynamic drive control

You can’t have variable/dynamic damper control (aka DDC and VDC) without dynamic drive control. You can’t have variable sports steering without dynamic drive control. You can however have dynamic drive control (the rocker switch) with no variable/dynamic damper control. Which is probably what you have. But you might never know….

colson79 · 12-12-2011, 01:16 PM

I'm sure BMW didn't give you DDC for free if you didn't order it. The rocker switch comes with the Sport Activity Pack which you ordered.

sard · 12-12-2011, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuco44

Just to prove how trivial your complaint is, I did exactly what you have to do to know by looking at the rear shocks in my garage. Put a piece of cardboard or an old newspaper on the ground at the rear of the car, out of traffics way, and look in and slightly up at one of the rear shocks. You can see the protrusion and wire easily. Simple, clean and takes all of 10 secs to do.

Of course, if you would rather not know................just carry on.

Agreed.

I went into my garage, walked to the back of the car, bent over and looked under the car, and saw the DHP component/wire, stood back up.. took me as long to do as thinking.."this guy is asking for answers, but is too lazy to contribute."

Didn't even have to touch the ground with any part other than my feet. It would be harder to "look for it" if it's not there though..I took my iPhone and snapped two quick pics of where you would find it, and how easily it is to see. You can do it without "dirtying yourself up"

The reason I'm curious is because of all the posts where people claimed to "feel" the electronically controlled damper changes who didn't specifically pay for the DHP. I'm not sure if anyone who didn't pay extra for the DHP actually took the minute to check and share. I know people who did pay, have shared their findings.

mistermagoo · 12-12-2011, 08:23 PM

Has nothing to do with laziness. I live in Manhattan and garage my car. When they bring my car up, I'm expected to exit rather quickly. However, since it seems it's relatively easy to take a pic of the shocks, i'll do so the next time I get my car. I thought I had to remove the wheels.

12-09-2011, 11:17 PM	#1
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	DHP Standard? Just picked up my new 2012 X3 35i (Space Gray, Sand Beige Nevada Leather, Fineline Wave Wood Trim). Great ride so far. Hoping to take it out for a spin sans wife so I can open up the engine a bit. Impressed by how much power is available at the slightest tap of the accelerator. Anyway, I have a question. I didn't select DHP as an option, but when I picked up my car, I noticed that I had the rocker switch with the ability to select Sport and Sport+ modes. Is DHP now standard? I double checked my order sheet and it isn't listed as an option. Has this happened to anyone else?
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

12-09-2011, 11:41 PM	#2
paul386 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 274 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 35i Jet Black Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Some people get lucky I suppose. It definitely isn't standard! Be careful on that engine until you get a few thousand miles on it!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-09-2011, 11:48 PM	#3
fiddy yen First Lieutenant 25 Rep 329 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 35i Msport Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Skeetsckatchewan iTrader: (0)	Msport package? If so the rocker switch comes standard but doesn't do anything to the suspension. __________________ 2008 335i 6MT - Dinan tuned stge 2 1986 325es - SOLD 2012 BMW X3 35i AW on RB Msport - JB3 @ 4.0PSi over stock, 20x9F and 20x10.5R Stance SC-5ive, H&R lowering springs. - SOLD 2006 BMW 330i - //M rep kit with custom exhaust, H&R springs, 19" VMR - SOLD
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-09-2011, 11:56 PM	#4
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	No MSport Package, just the Sports Activity Package. I guess I got lucky... Maybe I should notify the dealer...
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 12:07 AM	#5
torzeck Lieutenant 55 Rep 400 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 35i, 2020 X3 30i Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Portland Oregon iTrader: (0)	All of us 2011 owners have discussed this extensively. It was confusing. The 35i with SAP comes with the rocker switch. It will control transmission shift points, the steering but not the actual shocks unless you have DHP.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 12:13 AM	#6
Want the thrill Lieutenant Colonel 336 Rep 1,560 Posts Drives: 2022 X4M40i, retired ‘11 X3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: MI iTrader: (2) Garage List 2022 X4M40i [10.00]	http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showth...light=Mole7374 Read on....
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 01:14 AM	#8
02420X3 Captain 63 Rep 983 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 35i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	As noted by others, the rocker switch is present, but there is no DHP, and there are no suspension changes. However there are transmission shiftpoint, 7th and 8th gear lockout, and throttle response changes that may rock your world. Be gentle until your X3 is broken in, but enjoy!
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 01:24 AM	#9
sard Major 245 Rep 1,331 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern California iTrader: (1)	Can you take a photo of your shocks and post it? If you have DHP you should have the cylinder with the wire coming out of it like this http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=619487 __________________ E92 M3 - DCT - 20" BBS LM-R - KW Clubsport - Akrapovic Exhaust - Powerchip Tune - Arkym Aero Kit - HID Halo
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 06:36 AM	#10
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all your responses. I will double check to see if the rocker switch only affects the throttle. And sorry for the duplicate post. I'm a relative newbie who didn't for this forum. On the fense about reading the X3's. Guess I should. For both. Thanks again all.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 06:36 PM	#13
Le Chef Banned 17 Rep 412 Posts Drives: BMW X3 35i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	Special rocker switch You could also check under the rocker switch marked "Normal/Sport/Sport+". Some versions of SAP (-DHP) came with a special BMW Motion 3 Placebo Feedback Switch (M3PFS). This uses motion feedback to stimulate the cerebrum linking the frontal and parietal lobes into believing the body is experiencing stiffer suspension.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 06:50 PM	#14
MikeBimmer Private 3 Rep 59 Posts Drives: 2011 X3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: DC Metro Area iTrader: (0)	HI-freaking-larious!!!! __________________ '11 X3 28i
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-10-2011, 07:10 PM	#15
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	I guess I'll never know. Kinda hard to get a good view of the shocks in the city, and there's no way of knowing for certain by just toggling the switch.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-11-2011, 09:16 AM	#17
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	Yeah, it kind of matters if on one side of the car you have crazy cab drivers passing by at ridiculous speeds, regardless of traffic conditions. But more importantly, I don't care enough to get down on a filthy sidewalk or parking garage floor to see if there are wires coming out of the shocks.
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-12-2011, 12:51 PM	#19
sfax Brigadier General 94 Rep 3,855 Posts Drives: BMW X3 2011 F25 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Berkshire, UK iTrader: (0)	Rocker switch = dynamic drive control You can’t have variable/dynamic damper control (aka DDC and VDC) without dynamic drive control. You can’t have variable sports steering without dynamic drive control. You can however have dynamic drive control (the rocker switch) with no variable/dynamic damper control. Which is probably what you have. But you might never know…. __________________ F25 xDrive20d SE __ professional multimedia package \| dynamic package \| climate package \| 309s \| xline \| xenons \| electric seats \| folding mirrors \| business speakers
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-12-2011, 01:16 PM	#20
colson79 Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 35i DSB Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wisconsin iTrader: (0)	I'm sure BMW didn't give you DDC for free if you didn't order it. The rocker switch comes with the Sport Activity Pack which you ordered. __________________ 2012 X3 35i \| Deep Sea Blue \| Oyster \| Packages \| Sports \| Cold Weather \| Cold Weather 2 \| Premium \| Technology \| Premium Sound
	Appreciate 0 Quote

12-12-2011, 08:23 PM	#22
mistermagoo Enlisted Member 22 Rep 48 Posts Drives: 2012 X3 x35i, 2015 X5 x35i Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: New York, NY iTrader: (0)	Has nothing to do with laziness. I live in Manhattan and garage my car. When they bring my car up, I'm expected to exit rather quickly. However, since it seems it's relatively easy to take a pic of the shocks, i'll do so the next time I get my car. I thought I had to remove the wheels.
	Appreciate 0 Quote