[sparoz]

wonder if Australia is getting the same Piano Black trim.

[red-sauerkraut]

Maybe they are are using up the (soon to be aged) supply of n52's first...

Originally Posted by Jason

No mention of N20. Don't know when it may be included, sorry.

[the infamous...]

great info, zmp ftw!

[joey_j]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

Too big (restrict rear leg room)

Too heavy (added weight affect fuel economy numbers)

Too expensive (not enough people prepared to put them on their options list for them to be economically viable)

They used to be available on the previous generation...

[formula M]

@ BMW..

Where is the deisel..? OMG r ur head off ur rocker..? Fire whoever is doing your market testing, their a little aloof of whats going on over here and what people are asking for.

[Le Chef]

Originally Posted by joey_j

They used to be available on the previous generation...

I have a brochure from the old X3 and no mention of cooled and multi-adjustable comfort seats, just standard comfort seats or sports seats, nor were they available on the 3 Series. They were and are available on the X5/X6 though.

[Le Chef]

"For autumn 2011, an already diverse range of standard equipment and special options will be further boosted by a number of specific enhancements. The convenience of the Auto Hold function, for example, will be augmented by the automatic release of the electromechanical parking brake. The range of mobility services from BMW ConnectedDrive will likewise be extended. In conjunction with a navigation system, the Real-Time Traffic Information function will also be available for the new BMW X3 from autumn 2011"

Is the 1st enhancement a big deal?

I thought we already had RTTI in the US?

[Dr Stig 2]

Found out yesterday my AUgust build is actually week 38 build - mid / late September - which means they are in the hypothetical 2012 MY.

Buggered if I can get any details as to what difference there will be int he AUstralian models.

We dont get the wide range of packages outside of M SPort.
MOstly its all options one at a time (they charge more that way)

If they were adding some more standard fruit then I might save a few bucks.
If anyone hears about AUstralian MY12 changes I woud appreciate the heads up.

Only tidbit I heard was that the Directors of BMW Oz were in Munich for the release of the new 1 series - so they might bring back some MY12 model update data on the 18th of AUgust.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by Niva

With the US peso basically worthless BMW is better off selling them abroad anyway. X3 starts at $80K in China for example.

Any word on Canadian 2012 Pricing? I put an order in 2 weeks ago, still don't have a production number. I am fine with an '11 as I will keep the car for the long term, but with the Can $ well above par was wondering if there might be a price cut?

You do realize that the extra money doesn't go into BMWs pockets, some probably does, but most goes to China's government with taxes built into the price. The cost of selling an X3 in China is double of what it is to sell it elsewhere.

[Lotus7]

Very, very disappointed that the 35i is now only available with the moonroof. For me it's a total deal breaker. I wouldn't consider a X3 without the 35i engine, but don't want a moonroof and would not take it if it were offered at no cost.

[epiphone3]

Originally Posted by Lotus7

Very, very disappointed that the 35i is now only available with the moonroof. For me it's a total deal breaker. I wouldn't consider a X3 without the 35i engine, but don't want a moonroof and would not take it if it were offered at no cost.

you know there is a shade that goes over the roof which basically makes the moonroof look like a normal roof on the inside, right? With the shade pulled shut, it looks no different than a regular roof.

[Lotus7]

Originally Posted by epiphone3

you know there is a shade that goes over the roof which basically makes the moonroof look like a normal roof on the inside, right? With the shade pulled shut, it looks no different than a regular roof.

All true.
I've had (3) recent vehicles with a sun/moon roof: A Honda Accord Wagon, Audi A4 2.8, a Subaru Legacy GT turbo. Never used any of them more than once or twice, and felt I was forced to purchase a feature that I had no use for.

My dislike for sun/moonroofs I'll never use is because of:

1. The external appearance of the vehicle. I just don't like the way the roof looks with the surface broken up by the glass. It's also harder to wash the vehicle.

2. The additional weight at the highest possible place on the vehicle. It raises the center of gravity, which is already too high on a X3.

3. The added mechanical components, which in a small percentage of vehicles will fail. Several Forum members have already had moonroof failures. Additionally, a sun/moonroof is always a potential source of leaks as the vehicle ages and gaskets/seals wear and harden.

4. Although not really significant in the X3, there is a reduction of headroom.

5. Paying for something one does not want or will ever use.

I'm all for offering the moonroof as an option as BMW did on the 2011 models, but being forced to take it, or not being able to get the N55 engine would cause me to look elseware for a vehicle.

I have no issues at all with those who enjoy driving with a moonroof and fully understand the value to some people. I'm fortunate to have other vehicles, so if I want open air driving I can choose an open roadster with no top (bonnet) at all. My issue is not with the value of having a moonroof, the problem I have is being forced to take it.

[Dr Stig 2]

1. Agree with the lot above.
I've chosen a sunroof once. Leaked in the mount ISA's high UV sunshine.
Forced to have it since. Hated it.
Drive a convertible as a dd and love it, but it has a folding metal roof.
Perfect.

[OrangeDeep]

Originally Posted by ZGMF20A SF

what exactly is the high gross instrument panel? anyone has a pic of it?

Anybody have an answer to this question yet?

[02420X3]

That's a typo. It's "high gloss" not "high gross".

[Dr Stig 2]

Originally Posted by 02420X3

That's a typo. It's "high gloss" not "high gross".

or a Fruedian slip.

[Niva]

Originally Posted by Mako

You do realize that the extra money doesn't go into BMWs pockets, some probably does, but most goes to China's government with taxes built into the price. The cost of selling an X3 in China is double of what it is to sell it elsewhere.

Yes China's unfair import duty is mostly to blame. However the margins are still much higher for BMW in China. 2X price and 2X cost still equals 2X profit per unit.

[ZGMF20A SF]

Originally Posted by OrangeDeep

Anybody have an answer to this question yet?

my bad. i'm not that good with english in spelling.

if it is the glossy black paint that they refer to, i prefer the non-gloss paint because i don't know if thee high gloss paint will fade over time. people who has aluminium and titanium interior in e46 3 series were having problem with paint peel off or crack after ownignt he car for 5 yrs.

[apw2607]

Originally Posted by Le Chef

"For autumn 2011, an already diverse range of standard equipment and special options will be further boosted by a number of specific enhancements. The convenience of the Auto Hold function, for example, will be augmented by the automatic release of the electromechanical parking brake. The range of mobility services from BMW ConnectedDrive will likewise be extended. In conjunction with a navigation system, the Real-Time Traffic Information function will also be available for the new BMW X3 from autumn 2011"

Is the 1st enhancement a big deal?

I thought we already had RTTI in the US?

This is next gen rtti. Rather than using fm radio to send the traffic data the new system sends the traffic data through the telematics system (BMW assist).

It's unclear at this stage though if this will be introduced into the USA for 2011.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483032

[clarence]

Originally Posted by Niva

Yes China's unfair import duty is mostly to blame. However the margins are still much higher for BMW in China. 2X price and 2X cost still equals 2X profit per unit.

No, margins aren't much higher in China.
European markets have much higher margins.

[Rinse]

From my local BMW Dealer:


"Hi Kevin,

All 2011 Model X3's are now sold out and 2012 orders are starting to go through. If you would like, the 2012 pre-order wait list is up and running and we are ordering them based on 2011 pricing. Remember, this will be with the new N20 engine which is theoretically 15% more fuel efficient with the same amount of power.

Thanks and have a great day!"

[beto_L.A.]

Originally Posted by Rinse

From my local BMW Dealer:


"Hi Kevin,

All 2011 Model X3's are now sold out and 2012 orders are starting to go through. If you would like, the 2012 pre-order wait list is up and running and we are ordering them based on 2011 pricing. Remember, this will be with the new N20 engine which is theoretically 15% more fuel efficient with the same amount of power.

Thanks and have a great day!"

Were are you located??? iPhone app. Does not let me see your profile...I was told that in the US we won't get that engine....
Best regards..