05-12-2024, 11:48 AM | #1 |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
Sutphin transmission tune - feedback
I've used and currently use XHP Stg 3 on three different Bimmers and have been generally happy. The Sutphin custom tune is getting some great reviews and i've been in a M240xi with it and it was definitely smoother then stage 3 XHP with crisp/smooth shifts. My question is really on the optional "RACE" selection and how it's used with the Sutphin tune. I emailed and he was nice enough to get back to me but i'm still unclear. Is it always there at full throttle and above 5k rpm's because that's what i'm thinking at the moment? Is anyone using this with race and what's the feedback? Do we not select it? Need some insight if at all possible...
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 Last edited by Jnat; 05-12-2024 at 01:08 PM.. |
05-13-2024, 06:56 AM | #2 |
First Lieutenant
339
Rep 321
Posts
Drives: 2014 STI - 2020 X3MC
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Chicago area
|
So far I have 300 Miles since I flashed Rod's tune, I got race mode and I *think* it's just on all the time. My assumption is that WOT in S/D 3 is what would be considered race mode. He does say, though, not to enable drag mode in XHP since race mode is already enabled in the tune itself.
So far pretty happy with it, especially over OTS stage 2. I'm stock engine tuning and I chirp 2nd gear regularly now LOL. It's kind of hilarious. |
Appreciate
4
|
05-13-2024, 09:45 AM | #3 | |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
Quote:
Question, did you notice any difference in throttle response off idle? (even with mhd stg 2 can't get used to the delay off idle in the throttle) I'm just trying to be precautious because although i do drive it hard sometimes most of the time it's just spirited driving and i really done want the XHP drag mode type of shift all of that time... so i'm torn on the information to this point on whether i want or don't want "race" mode.
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-13-2024, 12:03 PM | #4 | |
First Lieutenant
339
Rep 321
Posts
Drives: 2014 STI - 2020 X3MC
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Chicago area
|
Quote:
It almost feels like there is some kind of throttle remapping in 1st gear which changes what the DME actually sees as relative throttle position. |
|
Appreciate
1
Jnat439.50 |
05-13-2024, 02:23 PM | #5 |
Registered
9
Rep 4
Posts |
I asked the same question before I bought and he said "race mode is built into the tune, it will be on during WOT and when shifting is 5k rpm and higher." So I assume that means its always there in the background, but "race" shifting will only happen in those 2 scenarios regardless of drivelogic setting or if launch control is active. If it only activated in D3/S3 I feel like he would've included that in the email, but all conjecture on my part of course. I bought the tune Friday, still waiting for him to send the tune over.
|
05-13-2024, 02:39 PM | #6 | |
Registered
9
Rep 4
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-13-2024, 04:54 PM | #7 | |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
|
Appreciate
1
joebie3338.50 |
05-13-2024, 05:00 PM | #8 | |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-13-2024, 07:31 PM | #9 |
Registered
9
Rep 4
Posts |
|
05-14-2024, 05:54 AM | #10 | |
First Lieutenant
339
Rep 321
Posts
Drives: 2014 STI - 2020 X3MC
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Chicago area
|
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
1
Jnat439.50 |
05-14-2024, 07:03 AM | #11 |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
So that's the consensus i guess, it's activated in D3/S3? I'm old so bare with me lol!!!
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
Appreciate
1
joebie3338.50 |
05-14-2024, 10:31 AM | #13 |
Registered
9
Rep 4
Posts |
Ok so it turns out he emailed it to me Friday night, hours after I bought it, but it was in my spam folder lol. Installed it this morning. Haven't been able to do much since work is only 5 miles away.
|
05-14-2024, 12:56 PM | #14 | |
Major
2056
Rep 1,204
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
575RWHP F87 M2C - ECUTEK RACEROM with flex fuel tuning by Bend Calibration 1000+RWHP E46 M3, Lab22 Built Turbo S54, Bend Calibration Tuned - BMW Half Mile Record Holder |
|
05-14-2024, 01:10 PM | #15 |
First Lieutenant
339
Rep 321
Posts
Drives: 2014 STI - 2020 X3MC
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Chicago area
|
If that's the case, it's something you should technically be able to play around with on your own. Once I go in for my next service, June, I'll be flashing the car finally. :-|
|
Appreciate
1
Commanderwiggin2056.00 |
05-14-2024, 02:22 PM | #16 |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
That's great to hear... i'm MHD and i don't see that listed at Bend but maybe another tuner who supports MHD can do the same. Thanks for the information.
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
Appreciate
0
|
05-14-2024, 05:21 PM | #17 |
Major
2056
Rep 1,204
Posts |
Yup they tune MHD, currently on MHD+ with mine.
__________________
575RWHP F87 M2C - ECUTEK RACEROM with flex fuel tuning by Bend Calibration 1000+RWHP E46 M3, Lab22 Built Turbo S54, Bend Calibration Tuned - BMW Half Mile Record Holder |
Appreciate
1
Jnat439.50 |
05-15-2024, 04:28 AM | #18 |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
Great to hear and to be clear, you feel that their tune helped in regard to accelerator pedal to throttle delay off idle and your generally happy with the tune?
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
Appreciate
0
|
05-15-2024, 10:12 AM | #19 |
Major
2056
Rep 1,204
Posts |
Their tune has been nothing short of amazing and from the first flash I never had any issue with throttle delay.
__________________
575RWHP F87 M2C - ECUTEK RACEROM with flex fuel tuning by Bend Calibration 1000+RWHP E46 M3, Lab22 Built Turbo S54, Bend Calibration Tuned - BMW Half Mile Record Holder |
Appreciate
0
|
05-15-2024, 11:11 AM | #20 |
First Lieutenant
339
Rep 321
Posts
Drives: 2014 STI - 2020 X3MC
Join Date: Dec 2022
Location: Chicago area
|
I took a peak at the throttle values in the MHD bin files with TunerPro, nothing is jumping out at me in terms of changes to be made. I'd have to see it in Live View and log it to know what's actually happening.
|
Appreciate
0
|
05-15-2024, 12:43 PM | #21 |
DisplacementReplacement
440
Rep 1,131
Posts |
It's weird, if you go qtr to half accelerator position off idle you get one throttle response but if you floor it, there's a tremendous delay like the relationship between APP and Throttle Position is drastic. With tuner pro you can open an MHD map (or other) look and or modify it? I'm not too familiar with it.
__________________
2020 X3M /// MHD Tune
Prior Bimmers 2017 240XI Hybrid / FBO / MHD E40 2015 235XI FBO / MHD E30 2009 335XI FBO / COBB / E30 |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|