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      08-03-2012, 09:41 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by mooney058 View Post
a paper provided a graph and you took it with 100% certainty, while at the same time there is no evidence - as quoted by the specialist/scientist working on the subject. I understand that a simple graph with two lines/bars is visually appealing - but as a first thing I would question the reliability of data - there are allegedly more actual immigrants living in the UK than officialy registered number.

I have no intention to change you way of thinking, and as said before - I really feel and share your frustration - but I could not accept your overgeneralisation.

The cars stollen in EU/Nordic countries do not end-up in EU's part of 'former easter block', but according to other newspapers, it travels much further to the south (geographically speaking) - Middle Asia. Same happened to my compatriots' cars newly bought in Lithuania, where 'supply' of new cars is limited, therefore criminals exploring other markets where 'supply' is higher ...

What needs to be done is to stop 'demand' side - believe me, authorities in countries of former eastern block (politically speaking) are trying to solve this issue, but it is not easy, as we are speaking about organised crime. So you see - if you dig deeper, you find new layers - thus your generalisation is not 100% accurate as people from the eastern block are trying to solve this issue for the benefits of its own people and for your safety as well
Lets agree that we disagree, fine with me..

But the numbers don't lie in what ever way you turn and twist ..
Reality speaks for itself and criminality has gone up the last years and there are more foreign criminals in UK jails now than for 10 years ago , the criminal percentage is higher than in the ethnic UK population. These are facts NOT fiction :-)
The numbers are there for you to see.

And I can understand you to doubt information from databases from not so good Universities as Oxford.... but what the heck..

From the "little known news agency" International Business Times:

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Originally Posted by The International Business Times UK
The International Business Times UK arrived at these findings by comparing the total prison population to the total number of foreign nationals in prison against data from the University of Oxford's Migration Observatory."
Some of The national statistics can however be found here if you follow the link in the article from The International Business Times UK

http://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reques...ncoming-232773

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